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Breaking Law Is No Walk in Park
Some Yosemite visitors and workers say rangers can be overzealous in enforcing rules. Officials say their good deeds far exceed any lapses.
By Julie Cart
Times Staff Writer

December 13, 2004

YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK — The evening had begun so well. After wine and dinner at the elegant Ahwahnee Hotel last year, Australian tourists Margaret and Andre Vischer stepped into the frigid High Sierra night and into their rental car.

As they drove through the first dark intersection, neither of them noticed the park ranger's vehicle. Andre, 58, recalled seeing a stop sign and lightly touching the brakes but not coming to a full stop.

After they were pulled over by the rangers, Vischer said he told them about the bottle of wine he and his wife had shared during their four-hour dinner. Both Vischers were given Breathalyzer tests. Andre's blood alcohol registered .08, the minimum at which a person is considered legally drunk. Margaret tested at .06.

Andre was frisked, handcuffed, read his rights and taken away by two rangers. Another ranger drove the couple's rental car while Margaret remained at the side of the road where a male ranger frisked her, handcuffed her and took her to Yosemite's small jail to spend the night. There, she was fingerprinted, photographed, questioned and told to strip, shower and put on an orange jumpsuit.

When Margaret asked why she was being jailed even though her blood-alcohol level was under the legal limit and she was not driving, she said rangers told her they considered her a danger to herself and others. The next day she was released without being charged.

The couple spent Margaret's 60th birthday a few days later at the park's federal courthouse, where Andre pleaded guilty to driving under the influence and paid a $2,500 fine.

"The whole thing was totally intimidating and humiliating and totally unnecessary," Margaret Vischer said in a recent telephone interview from the couple's home in Sydney.

Cam Sholly, Yosemite's deputy chief ranger, said the decision to arrest Margaret Vischer was discretionary. "This was a fine line between taking someone into custody for their own safety and releasing someone whose judgment is impaired to a degree that they could be a danger to themselves," he said.

But Margaret Vischer's story has a familiar ring to other visitors, employees and defense attorneys with similar accounts of alleged overzealous policing in a place where people come to relax and expect to be treated like guests. Most of the people who have questioned the conduct of park rangers acknowledged doing something out of line. Nonetheless, they contend that the treatment by park rangers was out of proportion to the minor infractions they committed and out of place in a national park.

Beth Shilliday, a 35-year-old assignment editor for KTLA-TV Channel 5 in Los Angeles, said she was treated for a concussion and bruises after rangers threw her to the ground while arresting her on suspicion of drunk driving and possession of a small amount of marijuana. Her car and others were stopped during a search for a missing child in August.

Park officials told The Times, which like KTLA-TV is owned by the Tribune Co., that Shilliday was intoxicated and uncooperative, and whatever injuries she suffered she caused herself. Shilliday has pleaded not guilty and her case is pending in Yosemite's federal court. Meanwhile, the park has launched an internal investigation into the rangers' behavior.

Leah Sesto, an 18-year-old clerk in the park in 2000, said she was dragged out of bed by rangers and arrested on suspicion of being drunk a few hours after friends had escorted her to her room. "It was the first time I'd ever had anything to drink," said Sesto, who described herself as "a goody-goody church kid."

She pleaded guilty to being under the influence of alcohol.

Interviewed at the park, Yosemite Supt. Mike Tollefson vigorously defended his rangers, saying their daily unheralded efforts to save lives and keep the park and visitors safe far outstrip occasional judgment errors.

"I would adamantly disagree that there is a zero tolerance policy in this park," Tollefson said. "We certainly have problems periodically. Of the complaints we get, law enforcement is the minority, but we take those the most seriously."

Despite its bucolic setting amid towering granite walls and waterfalls, Yosemite National Park is subject to the same social ills that police contend with elsewhere. In the mid-1980s, a report from the Interior Department's inspector general found a prostitution ring operating at the Ahwahnee Hotel and estimated that 85% of the park's commercial workforce used illegal drugs.

Five years ago, three tourists and a nature guide were slain just outside the park. In October, a manhunt for another multiple killer led to a remote section of the park where the suspect started a 2,000-acre fire before fatally shooting himself.

"If you let your guard down, we might lose a ranger here in Yosemite. I don't want that to happen," Sholly said.

Today, 50 full-time rangers are responsible for enforcing the law in the 1,200-square-mile park. They deal with assaults, thefts, arson, illegal hunting and vandalism. Park officials said there have been more than 4,600 citations this year and 306 arrests, higher than last year's tally but well below the record high of 846 arrests in 1992.

Tollefson said he stresses the importance of getting out of patrol cars and interacting more with visitors. "Our job here is to educate and to articulate why the park is important," he said.

Yet much of the criticism of law enforcement practices in the park centers on the way rangers respond to people who question why they're being stopped.

"One of the things I see as a pattern is people being arrested for mouthing off to rangers," said Carrie Leonetti, an assistant federal public defender who represents people arrested in the park. "Time and time again I have clients tell me that they are arrested for asking questions such as, 'Am I being detained?' "

John Reynolds, former director of the Park Service's Western region, which includes Yosemite, said in a recent interview that the park has long had a reputation for no-nonsense policing.

"Yosemite was upsetting from a number of points of view," said Reynolds, who resigned in 2000. "There was a fair amount of concern — unsubstantiated concern — at the regional office level."

Employees of the park's concessionaire say rangers shadow them waiting for the slightest infraction and talk about "sleeping with one eye open." Climbers who gather here to scale the park's famous granite walls joke about "getting tooled in the Valley."

Tollefson acknowledged there have been conflicts with climbers, whom he said "are at the edge in a variety of ways."

A chat room on a website for park rangers offers a different take on those relations.

"Search the pack and get the drugs," reads one anonymous entry. "Who cares if you have consent. No one is going to believe a Deadhead over a Ranger. Worthless scumbag deserves what he gets."

Drugs and alcohol figure into many arrests in the park, said Sholly, pointing out that there are as many as 20 establishments in Yosemite where alcohol is served or sold at various times of year.

He said rangers would be derelict if they were not on the lookout for drunk drivers, given the park's winding roads, distracting scenery and wandering wildlife.

Yet critics contend that rangers, at times, can pose the greatest threat. Don Squires, an Alameda County Superior Court judge, said he witnessed such an incident in the summer of 2000.

According to Squires and official reports, a group of British soldiers was drinking beer at a crowded outdoor cafe in Yosemite Valley. The young men were singing raucously, Squires said, but he and his wife, who were chaperoning several young children, saw nothing but bonhomie on a "lovely afternoon."

However, after a patron complained that one of the soldiers "mooned" someone in the crowd, Squires said rangers quickly intervened, hogtying and striking one of the soldiers as they dragged him off the deck.

"It was an excessive use of force and an outrageous abuse of authority," Squires said. "I was stone-cold sober just a few feet away with an uninterrupted view, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was a terrible thing for kids to see."

The soldier pleaded guilty to being under the influence of alcohol, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

It's not always visitors who run afoul of Yosemite rangers.

Park workers complain they have been charged with public drunkenness simply for drinking a beer on the front steps of employee dormitories or as they walked from their rooms to nearby bathrooms. One young woman was stopped after leaving a party in July and charged with "internal possession' of alcohol," a reference to the contents of her stomach. The charge was dismissed.

Stories like that abound in the valley, said Greg Johnson, vice president of the local Service Employees International Union, which represents concessions employees in the park.

Tollefson disagreed. "I don't think we have rangers hiding in the bushes waiting for concessions employees to do something wrong," the park superintendent said.

Yet some employees say fear of harassment causes them to live outside the park, entailing longer commutes and higher rents. "I moved away from my home of eight years because of it," said Bryan Kay, 33, who lived and worked in the valley and volunteered on the park's search and rescue team. "I packed my bags. I said, 'I'm moving to America.' Now I commute an hour and a half to my job."


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:shock: . Wat een verhaal! Maar het is niet alleen in Yosemite, dat je moet uitkijken met 's avonds drinken en dan autorijden.
Mijn ouders hebben een soortgelijk verhaal over hier in Washington DC (wel al 10 jaar geleden, maar toch).
Ze hadden gegeten bij Trader Vic's in het Washington Hilton hotel en daarbij ook over de avond een fles wijn gedronken.
Toen was 1.0 de dronkengrens in DC, overigens.
Mijn vader was moe en stopte niet lang genoeg voor een stopbord. Opeens hoorden ze gebonk op hun auto en omdat ze in de stad waren, waren ze bang, dat iemand ze probeerde te bestelen (tja, oudere mensen, logisch toch), dus mijn vader bleef rijden.

Een paar meter later realiseerde hij zich, dat het een vrouwelijke agente was, die bonkte, dus stopte hij.

Hij werd door haar mannelijke collega letterlijk de auto uitgesleept en in de boeien geslagen en meegenomen, mijn moeder verbijsterd en bang achterlatend.

De vrouwelijke politieagent wilde haar niet vertellen, waar mijn vader heen werd gebracht en beval haar met de auto te volgen naar een ander politiestation.

Ze hebben de hele nacht vastgezeten en pas om 5 uur 's ochtends, toen de volgende shift begon, werd mijn moeder op de hoogte gesteld van waar mijn vader was en dat ze $500 bail moest betalen.

In diezelfde tijd werd in Georgetown een vrouw in ijskoud weer aan een postbus geboeid en werd de camera van de journalist, die daar een foto van maakte in beslag genomen. (http://www.rcfp.org/news/1995/1120d.html)


Sinds dat verhaal in de pers is verschenen lijkt DC Police wat minder onbeschoft. Hopelijk helpt zo'n verhaal in de krant dus wel, hoewel het natuurlijk een fijne lijn is: er zijn dronkenlappen en de agenten lopen ook lichamelijk gevaar, zeker 's avonds en 's nachts.
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Petra wij komen al sinds 1965 bijna jaarlijks naar de USA op familiebezoek en steeds meer beginnen wij te walgen van het autoritaire optreden van de lawenforcement officers, die geen enkel respect hebben voor het principe "to Protect and Serve". kijk hier maar even http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/f ... d_badcops/
En verder zullen we er maar geen woorden meer aan vuil maken.
De bezoekers weten dat ze op hun tellen moeten passen.
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Tja, er zullen altijd macho's aangetrokken worden tot het beroep van politie agent. Toch ken ik persoonlijk een aantal mensen in law enforcement, die het doen omdat ze de community willen dienen en beschermen, en ik denk toch wel, dat die in de meerderheid zijn. Over hen hoor je natuurlijk niet in de pers.

Neemt niet weg, dat het goed is, als zulk misbruik van macht aan de tand gevoeld wordt. Meestal worden de betrokken agenten ook flink gedisciplineerd.

De flip side of the coin is wel, dat het een flink stressvol en gevaarlijk beroep is. Over de vele, vele keren, dat politieagenten tijdens het uitvoeren van hun beroep gewond of gedood worden hoor je niet zoveel.
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In ieder beroep waar een bepaalde macht gegeven wordt, zijn er mensen die er misbruik van zullen maken. Dat zet dan ieder ander in een kwaad licht.
Politie loopt elke dag gevaar, elke aanhouding kan iemand zijn met een pistool op zak.
Nog iets over de rangers in de nationale parken; er zijn hele drugkwekerijen opgezet in de afgelegen gebieden van de parken door criminelen en ook die zware jongens kunnen ze tegen het lijf lopen.
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ANY schreef:In ieder beroep waar een bepaalde macht gegeven wordt, zijn er mensen die er misbruik van zullen maken. Dat zet dan ieder ander in een kwaad licht.
Politie loopt elke dag gevaar, elke aanhouding kan iemand zijn met een pistool op zak.
Nog iets over de rangers in de nationale parken; er zijn hele drugkwekerijen opgezet in de afgelegen gebieden van de parken door criminelen en ook die zware jongens kunnen ze tegen het lijf lopen.
Wel geschrokken van deze berichten... we zijn drie jaar geleden aangehouden in Yellowstone omdat men op zoek was naar gevluchte criminelen uit Chicago!! en die hebben ze ook gepakt. Het laatste bericht hierboven vind ik behoorlijk verontrustend. Een drugkwekerij in een NP!!
Moet je voorstellen dat je daar lekker aan het wandelen bent en je loopt daar tegenaan. Je wordt nooit mee teruggevonden...
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Bart, het was niet bedoeld om je schrik aan te jagen, het is iets dat in de hele afgelegen gebieden gebeurd.

http://www.theava.com/03/1224-marijuana.html
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